mouthy, I think you got it!
Thanx
i have been married for over 30 years to a woman who was as good as i could have realistically hoped for and i probably am as good as she could have hoped for.. yet, over time, she has become less and less willing to respect my experience and conclusions concerning life.
the signs of disrespect are a knee-jerk reaction to doubt and correct my point of view even before i complete a thought or sentence.
while some of that can be seen in her mother and may be conditioned, my departure from the organizartion and her continued dedication to same has amplified her apparent inner distain.
mouthy, I think you got it!
Thanx
i have been married for over 30 years to a woman who was as good as i could have realistically hoped for and i probably am as good as she could have hoped for.. yet, over time, she has become less and less willing to respect my experience and conclusions concerning life.
the signs of disrespect are a knee-jerk reaction to doubt and correct my point of view even before i complete a thought or sentence.
while some of that can be seen in her mother and may be conditioned, my departure from the organizartion and her continued dedication to same has amplified her apparent inner distain.
I have been married for over 30 years to a woman who was as good as I could have realistically hoped for and I probably am as good as she could have hoped for.
Yet, over time, she has become less and less willing to respect my experience and conclusions concerning life. The signs of disrespect are a knee-jerk reaction to doubt and correct my point of view even before I complete a thought or sentence. While some of that can be seen in her Mother and may be conditioned, my departure from the organizartion and her continued dedication to same has amplified her apparent inner distain. It's quite clear for me to see. For instance, should an elder makes a suggestion, she smiles and readily complies, even when their seems to make little sense. Should I make a similar suggestion, her facial response is just the opposite. No words are exchanged, she simply tunes me out.
So, is my situation unique? Do others tolerate such relationships because the pluses still outweigh the minuses. Is it ever too late to walk away and live what's left alone?
i was thinking the other day about a potential answer to the frequent party question 'what was your most embarrassing moment?'.
immediately my mind went to my last experience on the theocratic school.
as an aspiring ms, i volunteered at the last minute to give a #4 talk on a particular individual (ignorant of what i was about to get myself into).
There was a ninety year old elder in a local congreagtion who would occasionally still be given small parts as well as be asked to pray ... UNTIL ... on consecutive Thursday nights he brought the house down. In the first instance, near the end of a question and answer assignment the old codger squinted toward the rear of the hall and beckoned to a teenage female who had been raising her hand: " I hope the young sister will forgive me. I have been looking you over for the entire meeting."
The next week would be one of his last on the platform. Again he would initiate gagging, snorting, and choking with words in his closing prayer: "Excuse us Jehovah for our falling shorts"!
I guess it will happen to all of us ...
steve hassan mentions that the 2 main tactics mind control cults use to control people is " fear " and " guilt " .. definition of fear in the readers digest oxford dictionary : " an unpleasant emotion caused by exposure to danger , expectation of pain, etc.
a state of alarm.
anxiety for the safety of, danger, feel anxiety or apprehension about.
Believe it or not, a turning point for me was the movie "The Wizard of Oz." Watching the movie based on a novel written around the time Russell opened his publishing company helped me to equate the alleged powerful man behind the curtain as a fabrication and that the "yellow brick road" represented percieved fear. Afterwards, when I put it all together I concluded that fear and guilt are acquired emotions which exist only in our minds. At some point I then recognized that true freedom was the acceptance that only "time and unforseen occurance" results in unfortunate events which we fear and that there is no need to feel guilt since the Greater Oz is not really watching at all.
i have always viewed women as more clever, manipulative, and intelligent than me.
no, i never walked around voicing my bias ... yet, over time, i must confess i have been afraid of the opposite sex.
it has only been in recent times that i have begun to fairly evaluate each individual by their conduct and not their gender.. why do i bring this matter up on this particular site?
Thank you for your comments. Apparently how I feel is not socially acceptable. Question: Are there not women who express the same sentiment toward men after abuse? If so, are they likewise counseled?
To me it's all relative. If you can't fly, a car does just fine. If you don't have a car, a bike looks good. If you don't have a bike, walking is as good as it gets. If you can't walk, someone pushing you in a wheelchair is a Godsend. So it is with faith. For those with nothing in the way of material possessions or a social life any persuation elevates them. JWs attract many who belong to nothing else.
i have always viewed women as more clever, manipulative, and intelligent than me.
no, i never walked around voicing my bias ... yet, over time, i must confess i have been afraid of the opposite sex.
it has only been in recent times that i have begun to fairly evaluate each individual by their conduct and not their gender.. why do i bring this matter up on this particular site?
Offer Accepted!
i have always viewed women as more clever, manipulative, and intelligent than me.
no, i never walked around voicing my bias ... yet, over time, i must confess i have been afraid of the opposite sex.
it has only been in recent times that i have begun to fairly evaluate each individual by their conduct and not their gender.. why do i bring this matter up on this particular site?
Dudess,
That admonition is only applicable when there are both a Father and Mother in the family. I am speaking strictly from the point of view of a "fatherless boy." Can you give me that?
i have always viewed women as more clever, manipulative, and intelligent than me.
no, i never walked around voicing my bias ... yet, over time, i must confess i have been afraid of the opposite sex.
it has only been in recent times that i have begun to fairly evaluate each individual by their conduct and not their gender.. why do i bring this matter up on this particular site?
Sorry, but not all men are leaders of their family ... and wives can be morons also ...we only know what we see in public.
i have always viewed women as more clever, manipulative, and intelligent than me.
no, i never walked around voicing my bias ... yet, over time, i must confess i have been afraid of the opposite sex.
it has only been in recent times that i have begun to fairly evaluate each individual by their conduct and not their gender.. why do i bring this matter up on this particular site?
If we want to pick apart words' isn't: "They are second class, "in submission" no matter what kind of moron or bastard the man in the family is" a sexist accusation which might not always be true?